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bob cawson
01/02/2015



At the last Wednesday Happy Band Meeting I mentioned that the Lincoln Ukulele Band had invited us to a uke “festival” in April. I have now received further details and a formal invite for us to attend.

The Lincoln Ukulele Band who formed last April are composed of forty members of all ages, most of whom had never played a uke before. They play for fun, but also voluntarily entertain at local care homes and play at various community functions.

To celebrate their first birthday they are hoping to organise a one-day uke 'festival' on a Sunday in or around April at Bishop Grosseteste University in Lincoln.  They are aiming to attract around 200 people by inviting the local folk clubs/uke groups (Lincoln, Grantham, Spalding, Newark, Sleaford, Gainsborough, Oakham, Horncastle and Scunthorpe) and the day would involve singarounds, club spots, workshop/s, instrument swap stall, raffle, refreshments and a concluding concert with invited band/guests.

They have provisionally booked a workshop from Phil Doleman (Ex Re-entrants) and are hoping to keep the cost of the day to well below £10.

They are presently considering April 12th or 19th as the possible date.I have replied to their invite saying that some of us would be pleased to attend. If you wish to go I would appreciate it if you would let me know.
I am interested in Lincoln Uke Fest. Thought you might want those interested to sign up by "replying" to your announcement, Bob, so don't count me twice (also in "comment" below).
robin hardy - 08-02-15


Okay Bob you can count me in for the above shindig. Unfortunately I cannot make it to rehearsal this week but will see you at the next session.
david hall - 02-02-15


I am also interested in this event, regards David
davidmc - 03-02-15


I am in anyway, being a member of the Lincoln Ukulele Group.  The more the merrier.  Will is a good musician and the event promises to be quite an occasion.  The Bishop Grossteste is quite a large complex and, even if the weather lets us down I am sure that we will still be able to go ahead indoors.
gordon eden - 03-02-15


I'm interested subject to confirmation on the date.
andy stanton - 09-02-15


It all depends on the date. At this time my diary is clear....I will be bringing my other halfs, (the wife and the uke), if that>s okay?. Sounds like to be a very good day.
I can offer a lift.

david n - 10-02-15


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irene
03/02/2015



Hi  Sorry I've forgotten what is needed for next session.  Have we got a list of songs we need to bring on wednesday    
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andy stanton
04 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Oh Susanna'
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andy stanton
04 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Alexander's Ragtime Band'
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andy stanton
04 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'This Train'
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andy stanton
05 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'I'm Leaning On A Lamp Post'
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andy stanton
05/02/2015




I've just amended I'm Leaning On A Lamp Post to include the solo introduction we discussed yesterday. While we're at it you might like to see what the UOGB did with this:-

Vintage George Formby as it might be sung in Red Square.Click to ENLARGE video clip

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bob cawson
06/02/2015




Just to let you know that we have been asked if we can do a 30/40 minute performance for the residents of Lancaster Grange Care Home on the Fernwood Park Estate.  I have spoken with the Home's Activities Co-ordinator and have arranged to meet with her this coming week to discus it further.  I'll keep you all posted of developments.Bob
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robin hardy
07/02/2015




Hi Bob,  Re Lincoln Uke Festival -I would like to go along and join in - have pencilled in both dates in April.
It will be good to see you back.
andy stanton - 08-02-15


Thanks Andy,

Looking forward to getting back to the regular uke sessions in March.

I am itching to come along to the improvers group too - have been playing through "Those were the days" - I'm keen to hear how the arrangement sounds with several ukes.

See you soon,  Robin.

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andy stanton
06/02/2015




Hi folks,I'm afraid I won't be able to make the next improvers' group.

However, I think we've got a format going that means we don't need yours truly to be there to get it to work.

It might be handy if somebody could step forward to chair the session, as it were.

AGENDA

1. Recap on developments.

2. Arrangements.

 Quickly go over the last two

  "Arrangement For Youre Sixteen" and "Arrangement For I Wanna Be Like You Version 2"

  Have a crack at "Those Were The Days".

 See how you get on.

3. Break

4. Open Mike session.

5. Singing without the sheet (suggested last time)
  I suggest "Living Doll" for two reasons, the lyric is simple, and you already know it by heart.

  Start practicing now!

So, any volunteers to steer this on Wednesday?
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andy stanton
08/02/2015




I’ve made further modifications to the comments page, which I hope might make things clearer.

Up to now all posts have had the same treatment whether or not the posts are fresh comments or replies to other people’s comments. It works in a simple way, but it also runs the danger that important notices get lost.  Last week I posted a notice about the improvers’ group which was rapidly knocked off the front page by people replying to Bob’s notice about the Lincoln Uke Festival.

Both of these are important events, but I wanted a way of preventing them from conflicting with each other for attention.

The breakthrough comes in distinguishing between ‘Comments’ which are fresh posts, and ‘Replies’ which are related to these comments. This new approach manifest itself on the Welcome page which now does the usual stuff, diary notices and the latest comment, but now offers the choice of:-

Reply – A post relating to that particular comment.
121 Reply – A private message to the person who made the last comment.
New Comment – Starting of a new topic on the comments board.

What this means is that replies to recent comment will no long interrupt the chronology of the messages.  You look back at recent comments and you see one that you want to reply to and click on the ‘Reply’ by the name of the person who made that comment, and then reply to it.  Your comment gets tucked under the comment you replied to.

Here’s an example.  On 7th Feb, Robin made a post saying he had pencilled in the dates for the Lincoln Uke Festival.  I have just made a reply saying it would be good to see him back.  That reply is now nested under Robin’s original message, and not at the end of the comments page.  
I like the change Andy, just to prove the system works, I responded to your reply to my comment - it's neat - all listed all together.

Will be a real boon when responses are required, as for the Lincoln event, if we use the reply feature, all the responses will be together for the organiser to view without trailing through all the other comments!

Well done that man.

robin hardy - 08-02-15


Robin, thanks for demonstrating the versatility of the changes so promptly.

It's much appreciated!

andy stanton - 08-02-15


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jefft
11 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Diana'
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jefft
11/02/2015




In the song Diana:
I have “corrected” the chord sequence at the end of the first verse to what looks correct to me:
In the last line of the bridge we have
I love you with my heart, oh oh, oh oh, oh oh oh oh oh oh, don’t you know I love you

In the recordings I studied there are two versions:

I love you with my heart, oh-oh oh-oh don’t you know I love love you so.
(As in copies from Grantham, scorpex and others) also from Paul Anka Greatest Hits.

or
I love you with my heart, oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh.
(As in  chordie.com, and others) also  Paul Anka 1957 Album “The Real”)

I think we have to go with six pairs of  oh-oh or the one that ends “love love you so” but I don’t think we can do both?

Hi Jeff, being more familiar with the original I would prefer the oh oh's. It is also easier to remember.
Talk soon
Tony

tony dawes - 12-02-15


Both versions are recorded by the man but at two dates. I sit in the middle as both seem "right" to me but not at the same time.

jefft - 12-02-15


The clip I used was from recorded at the time of the original version.  Perhaps it make sense to use the version that the clip illustrates.  What do you think?
andy stanton - 12-02-15


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jefft
12 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Diana'
Diana now set to mirror the clip we have. Somebody please try it. (Tony)
jefft - 12-02-15


Hi I have just run through it a few times and I think the G7 at the end of the first line of the bridge should be C7 and not G7. Apart from that tres bien merci.

tony dawes - 12-02-15


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jefft
12 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Diana'
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bob cawson
12/02/2015




Have visited/met with Lancaster Grange Care Home staff.  They are keen for us to perform a 30/40 minute gig (including break) in March.  Date suggested is one of the following Mon 16, Thu 19, Fri 20, Mon 23, Thu 26, Fri 27.  If you're willing to attend please let me know preferred date(s) and I will go for date that suits majority.Bob
Do we have a time slot Bob?
jefft - 12-02-15


I can only make 19th March :o(
andy stanton - 12-02-15


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jefft
12/02/2015




My Blue Heaven:
Are we aiming to do this at Fats speed and style?
It's all smoke and mirrors, Jeff.  If you count the beat just on what Fats does in this song it isn't all that fast.  All the fast stuff is happening in the background.  So in answer to the speed bit, I would say 'Why not?'.

As for style I think the expedient thing to do is get the pace right first.  If you want to emulate the style that will fall into place.  I think there is a role for kazoos to emulate the sax part in this.  We could also do with a bit of percussion.

andy stanton - 13-02-15


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bob cawson
13/02/2015




Have visited/met with Lancaster Grange Care Home staff.  They are keen for us to perform a 30/40 minute gig (including break) in March.  Date suggested is one of the following Mon 16, Thu 19, Fri 20, Mon 23, Thu 26, Fri 27.  Timings are 2.15pm to 3.15pm for all dates.  If you're willing to attend please let me know preferred date(s) and I will go for date that suits majority
At these times I can do both Mon 16 and Thu 19th.
andy stanton - 13-02-15


16 or 19th for me Bob
davidmc - 13-02-15


Can't do the Mondays at that time, can do the other dates.
jefft - 13-02-15


All the dates are okay for me Bob,though a Thursday would be preferable,time okay.
david hall - 13-02-15


All those dates are ok for me at present Bob
paul reed - 13-02-15


Hi Bob, I CAN do some of those dates! . . but only Mon 16th, Thu 26th and Fri 27th.
robin hardy - 14-02-15


Can do all of those dates at the moment
Roger

roger mackinder - 14-02-15


Hello Frosty all dates are okay with me. Chris
chris - 14-02-15


Hello everyone, for Lancaster Grange I would like to go, I can do any dates except Thursday 26th, I think I would need to ask someone for a lift please though (I am not sure about buses to there). I would also like to go to the festival in Lincoln and I can do either of the Sundays (I would not need a lift for this as my daughter can be available). Thank you. Jackie
julie wilson - 14-02-15


Sorry, forgot to add on above message. We will have two spare seats in car for Lincoln if anyone else needs/would like a lift. Thank you. Jackie
julie wilson - 14-02-15


Any of those dates are okay for me except 20 Mar - Grantham Singing Group on that date.
gordon eden - 15-02-15


19th,20th,23rd or 27th OK for me, Bob
Jacq

jacq - 16-02-15


Bob. I can do Thursday 19th, Monday 23rd or Thursday 26th.
david n - 16-02-15


The two spare seats in my daughter's taxi have now been filled. Thanks Jackie
julie wilson - 16-02-15


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robin hardy
15/02/2015




Hi all,  Re "Diana" - having listened to the original a couple of times, it strikes me as one of those songs that works better with its intro.  Do you think it would benefit from a few lead in strums, say a bar each of C, Am, F and G7 times 2 (i.e. the chords used in the first two lines of the song?
I'm for it, as you know, I love an intro.
jefft - 15-02-15


Intros for me on every song if possible!  I just lo-o-o-ve intros!
gordon eden - 15-02-15


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andy stanton
15 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Half The World Away'
So many songs, so little time!!
jefft - 15-02-15


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andy stanton
15 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Don't Look Back In Anger'
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jefft
15 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Let It Go Frozen'
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jefft
15 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Freight Train'
I have added two short instrumental lines between verse 3 & 4 for you all to try. It could go between all verses to break the song up a bit?
jefft - 18-02-15


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jefft
15/02/2015




Just been trying Octopus's Garden. The second chord is shown as C#m but I'm not sure the chord diagram fits. Is it the chord or the diagram?
Yes the chord was hopeless wrong.  I've corrected it!
andy stanton - 16-02-15


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robin hardy
16 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended ''
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robin hardy
16 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Diana'
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robin hardy
16/02/2015




Hi . . . Just added in an intro to "Diana" as there were a couple of positive responses above.  The original has plenty of sax in it . . . Kazoos anyone?
At the risk of embarrassing Andy yet again, I emailed him a couple of weeks ago saying that when I hit the escape key, my tablet reverted to the simplified home screen, not the fully detailed one.
Also, I said it would be really useful if on set lists we could go straight back to the set list after looking at a song on it, without having to reselect "set list" again so we could go straight from one song to the next.. . . and now we can do just that. Much easier. The same goes for the play list.  No more clicking "return to play list" - a tap on "escape does it.
Thanks Andy. Just thought I'd point these improvements out to the rest of the band. R.
First, a piece of advice.  Don't hit the escape key.  Seriously I said at the time that allowing for Android platforms was more complicated than I originally thought.  I will get there.  A little more patience si vous plait!

The other matter isn't straight forward either.  I'll see what I can do

andy stanton - 16-02-15


I've just checked and the code for the android index page is fine.  If your cookie tells it that you are using the Windows Display then you are diverted to the Windows Index.

I can only speculate that using the Esc key deletes the cookie.

andy stanton - 16-02-15


After further research I find it's not possible to load a new page into the existing page by using the default target "_self" when using an android platform.  The android operating system will always open a new page and load the required page into that. Good android coding protocol does not use links to return to a menu, as with Windows.  You get back to the menu by closing the page using the Esc key.

The irony is that this is exactly what I have done with android version.

So if you use an android device to run the Windows Version there are going to be one or two running problems which I'm afraid I can't do anything about.  One of them is a tendency we've already noticed to post the same thing more than once.  The other is that you might find yourself in a window that hasn't read your cookie properly.

All I can suggest if the glitches become too common is to delete the lot by using the Esc key, and then log on again.

andy stanton - 16-02-15


Incidentally, Robin, ignore my advice about avoiding the Escape key.  My reading suggests that this is in fact the optimum way to navigate on an android tablet.
andy stanton - 16-02-15


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robin hardy
17/02/2015




Andy - I meant to put in the first sentence of the second paragraph "embarrass Andy with praise" - there was I thinking you had done all these clever things.

All I know is that I can whiz around on my android tablet using windows menus, and go back to the previous screen simply by pressing escape - and I wanted to let other android users know.

Previously the only way to get off a song sheet was to click the "return to play list" link. So if I clicked a link to a song from "comments" or "set list" I had to go back via the play list.

Now, for whatever reason, I don't have to do that.  It all works just fine by pressing escape.  If I started from "set list", "escape" takes me back to "set list" . . .
. . . so you don't need to do anything with the coding!

I take your point about the "comments".  I've noticed that pressing escape reloads the page and re-enters the text of the comment which has just been posted, into the new comments box. It is easy to post the comment again in error.  You will notice I have not double-posted this month (yet!).

Maybe my browser or operating system has updated without me noticing, whatever.  I'm happy if you take the praise anyway.  With the highest regards, Robin.
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robin hardy
17/02/2015




Andy - I meant to put in the first sentence of the second paragraph "embarrass Andy with praise" - there was I thinking you had done all these clever things.

All I know is that I can whiz around on my android tablet using windows menus, and go back to the previous screen simply by pressing escape - and I wanted to let other android users know.

Previously the only way to get off a song sheet was to click the "return to play list" link. So if I clicked a link to a song from "comments" or "set list" I had to go back via the play list.

Now, for whatever reason, I don't have to do that.  It all works just fine by pressing escape.  If I started from "set list", "escape" takes me back to "set list" . . .
. . . so you don't need to do anything with the coding!

I take your point about the "comments".  I've noticed that pressing escape reloads the page and re-enters the text of the comment which has just been posted, into the new comments box. It is easy to post the comment again in error.  You will notice I have not double-posted this month (yet!).

Maybe my browser or operating system has updated without me noticing, whatever.  I'm happy if you take the praise anyway.  With the highest regards, Robin.
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jefft
17 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Streets Of London'
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jefft
18 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Streets Of London'
Only cosmetic changes to correct words, Picking papers changed to Kicking papers and Some old man to Same old man. This corrects to the original lyrics and makes the words make sense.
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andy stanton
18/02/2015




Thanks to Robin for raising this with me.
If you use a tablet or an smart phone to read this site and you have opted for the Windows Display you will have experienced one or two operating difficulties. These can be dealt with by the way you navigate the site.

The Android operating system creates a new page every time you click on a link, unlike the MSDos Windows version which overwrites the your present page with the new stuff.  What this means is that your device gets cluttered with your recent browsing history.

This does not present a problem for the Android version of the site because this was designed to work on Android.  You get back to main menu by click on the Escape key. The Esc key closes the page and reverts to the original menu.

If you have the Windows display on your android device then always use the Esc key to return to the home page.  So the simple rule is always go back to the home page by clicking the Esc key and then make a selection from the menu on the home page.
Good - all is well.

It's just midnight here, and I have just returned from a uke group meeting at Tumby Bay - the next town up the coast - 30 miles away.  Had a good time.
I suppose you will be about to start a session at the White Hart - so have a good one!  Back at the end of next week.

robin hardy - 18-02-15


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andy stanton
19 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Heartache Tonight'
Tony asked me to add this to the play list.

It's going to be interesting to hear how it turns out, particularly at the beginning.
I'm not sure what 'N.C.' means but it was on the copy Tony gave to me.

My fear is that in launching the Eagles into our repetoire Tony has struck a rich seam, and it's only a matter fo time before the play list is groaning with Heavy Metal.


andy stanton - 19-02-15


NC = no chord (tacet)
JeffT - 19-02-15


Although I don't know this well, just tried it, chords not difficult, and video is in G so play along is possible.  Needs a strong lead voice!!! (Hotel California next?)
jefft - 19-02-15


That's exactly what I feared!
andy stanton - 19-02-15


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jefft
19/02/2015




If anybody that is going to Third Thursday Newukes picks this up. Please give my apologies to the assembled company, I will not be attending, I have had an argument with a sharp chisel and my hand is bound up.
The formula is hand, chisel, wood, not hand, chisel, hand! Sorry about your sore hand, I hope that you will be back strumming soon. It's probably natures way of saying it's time to concentrate on theory.
Talk soon
Tony

tony dawes - 20-02-15


Maybe just strumming practise?
jefft - 20-02-15


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jefft
19/02/2015




I heard mention of a Friday session but can find no reference or diary entry?
I think the arrangement was that we would meet on the Fridays that alternate with the main group, or to put it another way during the same week as the improvers' group. Either case it means we would meet next Friday (27th Feb).

How's the hand?

andy stanton - 20-02-15


OK got that. Hand is sore and stinging a bit. Thumb is braced semi opposed to stop the cut opening, probably be like that for a week so improver's is out even if I can work out how to change gear. Fingers work and no damage to thumb operation but it is strapped in position so very little grip. Maybe I should try playing left handed?
jefft - 20-02-15


Left-handed . . . good idea . . . convert a few more and we'll have a majority.

Not sure using your chisel is the way to go about it though.

(Sorry to hear your injured Jeff.  Hope your soon back to the strumming)  R.

robin hardy - 20-02-15


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andy stanton
24/02/2015




Hello folk. Here is Improvers Group 25th Feb Agenda.Sorry I can't be here this week.  However, I will return bright eyed and bushy tailed for our next improvers' session on 11th March.
I will be AWOL on Wednesday, hand still on the mend.
jefft - 24-02-15


Anybody else not going?  I don>t wanna be by meself.

david n - 24-02-15


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jefft
24/02/2015




Just a heads up, the Friday session is 13:00 to 15:00 not 14:00 to 16:00 as previously posted in the diary.
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jefft
24 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Alexander's Ragtime Band'
I have changed this song to the version arranged by Neil Marriott as an alternative to the one that we had, (which we agreed was a bit strange). (the Adim does give a nice ragtime sound)
I have had to change it a bit because it was set to be displayed as "chords over text" rather than our play list "chords in text"
It also uses Neil's method of starting lines at the start of bars and the ^ indicating a single stroke. I have the original saved if we need to go back to it.
Please try and see what you think.

jefft - 24-02-15


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bob cawson
25/02/2015




The first Friday afternoon session will be held this coming Friday (27th) from 1.00 to 3.00pm.  I have published a shortened play list on the web site and will be bringing along copies of 4/5 other songs to try that might be suitable for future gigs, including the "Songs from the Shows" on the 16th April.
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gordon eden
26/02/2015




Hi all, Just going through my latest list of amendments to songs - Phew!  Looked at Alexander's Ragtime Band and feel that I have to ask the question - are we starting to make simple songs difficult?  Are all the v's up, v's down, vertical lines, slashes, etc necessary?  I have been playing the uke for over three years now and all groups seem to manage to play perfectly well without all this extra furniture.  We may as well just revert to a normal music score, at least I would be able to read and understand that.  Can we make it a rule that a song is entered on the play list and maybe just amended on one occasion and then to leave well alone.  It is onerous enough on  my I-pad, I feel for these who have to use an extra sheet of paper almost every time.
No Gordon, non of the vertical bar lines or obliques indicating beats are necessary (especially if you are playing on your own) but they do give an indication as to the amount of bars/beats for each chord during bits without words. The ^ is an indication of a single stroke (at our standard take your pick up or down). I did put a brief explanation when I posted the revised song. I also said, that if it does not meet with aproval, I have the earlier one on file and can reinstate it.
Amending a song once would be OK if we get it right.

jefft - 26-02-15


I've just returned from Welsh Wales to find this little controversy.

I agree with Gordon re complexity of song sheets.  It will help those who like complexity and are willing to embrace it, but it will look off putting for those who don't.  I also agree with him that once songs are posted ideally they should remain unchanged. However, I am also a pragmatist.  Songs are not always 100% accurate when they are posted, on occasion in the past we have found that they are in the wrong key, and there have been occasions when we have played them and decided that the chords are inappropriate, and so it is important that we have the facility to change songs, and that when needed songs are changed.

All the songs are marked with a date tag, the date when were added to the list or amended.  It seems to be a sound principle that existing songs are not amended without discussion in the group, if at all.

andy stanton - 27-02-15


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jefft
27 / 02 / 2015



...has added or amended 'Alexander's Ragtime Band'
As requested:
Alexander's Ragtime Band' reverted to near to the previous version with only slight modification to make scan and play easier. No need for the paper buffs to reprint.
Changes: line 6 word changes, line 9 chord F#dim added, change to the finish.

jefft - 27-02-15


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jefft
27/02/2015




Note to Bob: do you want me to change "You are my sunshine" to the Richard G version?
If so in C or G?
Thanks for the other amendments.  As for "Sunshine" please don't do any changes until after this week's meeting.

bob cawson - 02-03-15


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