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JeffT
01/07/2014



Why drop Lily? We should drop Living Doll, just in case we have another member of the audience with a 'syrup'', (and it is about as politically incorrect as the full version of Lilly).  😃
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Tony Dawes
01/07/2014



Hi All, perhaps we should be matching our set list to the audience. That wasn't a syrup it was an Irish (as in jig). The thought of playing the same old stuff time after time is a bit of a turn off! If we don't push ourselves we won't improve. It is only the rate of progress we should consider. If we did not play something very well we should PRACTICE it not discard it! Talk soon, Tony
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Andy Stanton
01/07/2014



Agree absolute, and the converse applies.  If we haven't practiced it (and got it right) we shouldn't perform it!
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Colleen Bergmann
02/07/2014



Hi I would say it is better to think of the audience we are playing to not  songs that we like..We are the Happy Band after all. Songs that the people can sing along to. A couple on Saturday were a bit random.

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Andy Stanton
02/07/2014



Hello people.

I've now put Rock Around The Clock on the play list.

I'd like to explain a little more about chord inversions.  Just as there's more than one way to skin a cat there's more than one way to play a chord.  By playing similar notes from different points of the scale you get a different tonal quality to the same chord. For instance:-

In the first line of Rock Around the Clock you would play C in the first position (the left hand diagram), on the second line you would play C in the second position (the next diagram) and on the third line you play C in the third position (middle diagram) before changing to G7 in the third position (fourth diagram).

I've put F in the third position because if you're playing that far up the neck you might not want to come all the way down again just to play an F.

NOTE. You get C7 in the third position just as you would get a G7 in the first position.
This might all seem a bit odd and a bit wierd, but the best way to get it is to try it.
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Andy Stanton
03/07/2014



In honour of the forthcoming final live performance of Monty Python, I have just this moment included the Philosophers' Song on the Play List.

N.B.  There is some swearing on the video clip associated with the song.
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JeffT
03/07/2014



I have just amended "Rock around the clock" although essentially the same I have moved line positions to make it (as I see it) easier to visually scan/play. I am never sure about having a capital at the start of every line following a comma on at the end of the previous line  but that seems to be convention. Hope you approve, if not we can revert.
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Andy Stanton
04/07/2014



That's generally the convention with verse.  Of course there are verse styles that dispense with capitals and punctuation altogether:-

nobody loses all the time

i had an uncle named
Sol who was a born failure and
nearly everybody said he should have gone
into vaudeville perhaps because my Uncle Sol could
sing McCann He Was A Diver on Xmas Eve like Hell Itself which
may or may not account for the fact that my Uncle

Sol indulged in that possibly most inexcusable
of all to use a highfalootin phrase
luxuries that is or to
wit farming and be
it needlessly
added

my Uncle Sol's farm
failed because the chickens
ate the vegetables so
my Uncle Sol had a
chicken farm till the
skunks ate the chickens when

my Uncle Sol
had a skunk farm but
the skunks caught cold and
died so
my Uncle Sol imitated the
skunks in a subtle manner

or by drowning himself in the watertank
but somebody who'd given my Unde Sol a Victor
Victrola and records while he lived presented to
him upon the auspicious occasion of his decease a
scrumptious not to mention splendiferous funeral with
tall boys in black gloves and flowers and everything and

i remember we all cried like the Missouri
when my Uncle Sol's coffin lurched because
somebody pressed a button
(and down went
my Uncle
Sol

and started a worm farm)

E E Cummings
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David Hall
04/07/2014



Hello there, as promised here is the song list we agreed last Wednesday. In the order of play: 1, Rock around the Clock. 2. Your Sixteen. 3. Living Doll. 4. Singing the Blues. 5. Bye Bye Love. 6. Putting on the Agony. INTERVAL. 7.Oh Boy. 8. Wooden Heart. 9. This ole House,easy version. 10. Have you  ever seen the Rain. 11. Travelling Light. 12. Oh when the Saints.  We are playing this gig for REACH and our audience will be young and not so young adults with learning disabilities who love to join in.
The venue is the Methodist Church on Barnbygate, Newark. Arrive at 7pm for 7.30 start.
David.H.
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David Hall
04/07/2014



Sorry forgot to mention but their seems to be a rumour going around that we have agreed NOT to purchase polo shirts for our group. Now I know that there are a few of you who do not wish to wear such gear. However a significant majority DO want me to go ahead and identify a supplier for the above, and as we are a democratic group I  will be continuing my search. Who was it who said "You cannot please all the people all the time" what a wise person that was.
David, H.
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Andy Stanton
05/07/2014



You can fool some of the people all of the time
And you can fool all of the people some of the time
Which is usually long enough to become president of the United States.
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Tony Dawes
05/07/2014



Hi David, it always happens , I have never known a group of above 7 people to agree over a sustained period. A suggestion, what about allowing any colour or style of T-shirt or Polo supplied by the member and the band supplies the Badge or LOGO. Alternatively, abandon democracy(my choice) and proceed with alacrity. Remember in any group number there will be a multiple of 1.73 points of view e.g. 16 members 27.68 points of view prior to consensus. Bon Chance! The .68 view is probably mine. Am I rambling again
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JeffT
05/07/2014



Polo shirt! Was I asleep again or is it that Uke banjo sending me deaf? Club logo, have we got one?
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Andy Stanton
05/07/2014






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JeffT
05/07/2014



Well now there's a surprise, bit like the curates egg. (i.e I only like the bottom half) Oh well, in the minority again. Never been sure about alacrity as a life choice or democracy for that matter.
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Andy Stanton
06/07/2014



I'm sorry, the image I posted was only meant to be a suggestion.  The answer to your original question 'Club logo, have we got one?' is 'No!'

What I can do is put a number of different suggestions together so we can have a heated debate.  Any ideas, people?
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JeffT
06/07/2014



Sorry Andy, its not your artwork, I just feel the U3A logo looks like children's building blocks (the sort with alphabet on them) But we can't change that.
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Andy Stanton
06/07/2014



Here's three more suggestions:-








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Tony Dawes
06/07/2014



I love all three of the designs but the second would need a lot of space. On the first a small U3A could sit underneath the logo, or on the Uke body in the third.
Nice one Andy
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JeffT
06/07/2014



Like number 3!! Spread across full with of tee shirt could make haapppyy reading depending on fit and personages wearing it ;). Perhaps neater as a pocket size logo.
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Ritacurrs
06/07/2014



Come on ladies help me out here.

I very much like the third logo but please not across the chest!
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jackie wilson
06/07/2014



With you Rita, love the third one but as pocket size logo, across chest would give the logo many different shapes! It may be nice to have matching style shirts but in different colours?
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Rita Cutts
06/07/2014



Yes Jackie

A ukulele on logo would be good not a double bass!
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Andy Stanton
07/07/2014



So if we added the logo (no doubt to a dissenting voice from Jeff) then it should look like:-




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Andy Stanton
07/07/2014



Here's a bit of fun,

It's a song that was written back in the seventies by Andy Fairweather Low of Amen Corner fame.  I'm not going to put the song on the play list for reasons that will seem obvious as soon as you start to play it.  It is a cracking little song to play along to, and very good practice indeed.

Click on Hot Poop to start.

"Two of them" refers to bars rather than notes.
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JeffT
07/07/2014



In reply to Jackie and Rita, ukuleles (like chests) do come in all shapes and sizes.
Yes Andy, Play school blocks!
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Tony Dawes
07/07/2014



Wow! Now everyone is using the comments box on the website. Good move, a bit of controversy.
Many different coloured shirts with a single pocket label seems to be pretty close to agreement.
How are you doing David, have you torn your hair out yet?
Like the tune Andy.
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JeffT
07/07/2014



Getting to be a forum or even a chatline.
Problem with different coloured shirts is the colour of the logo.
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Rita cutts
07/07/2014



I think it will go with most colours not red of course.
Good design Andy
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Tony Dawes
07/07/2014



Design looks very good to me! all we need now is a manufacturer who will produce 50 for £1 each, preferably iron on. Post shirt problem! We will have to make sure that the seating plan doesn't result in colour clashes,(OMG quell horror or something!)
Talk soon
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Andy Stanton
07/07/2014



A note for anybody actually organising the production of this logo (iron on, or otherwise), these illustrations are clearly limited in size and they also have a slight shadow to make them stand out a bit.  I have the original artwork if anybody needs it.
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David Hall
07/07/2014



Really has gripped the imagination this one. So firstly thank you Andy for your logo designs and I really like the look of the last one posted. That would be my choice for a pocket logo.I think if we are looking at different colours for the shirts we should only be thinking of two colours at most,and I have no particular colours in mind as yet. Thank you Tony for your concern about my hair,you can appreciate that I cannot afford to lose any more at the moment! Iron on or Embroidery, I think,for the sake of permanence we should opt for the Embroidery. That's my take so far,but do hang on to the artwork Andy please we are probably going to need it.
David.H.  
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Andy Stanton
08/07/2014



By request the key for Summertime has been changed from E minor to A minor.

Don't forget to print off the altered copy!
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David Hall
09/07/2014



Just a quick note about access to the church hall on Friday. Look to the left of the main church and you will see an adjoining red brick building with a red door, this is our way in and there will be someone around to let you in. Also it is okay if you wish to be accompanied by your spouse/partner/carer? or whoever. They will be made very welcome!
David.H.
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JeffT
09/07/2014



Whilst musing, it came to me that we rarely play the only song that we have ever played without crib sheets i.e. "Colours" So I posted "Hound Dog" only the three basic chords and simple lyrics.
(Andy, despite my attempts to follow the rules, it seems that the software has seen Tacet  as C+  ?)
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Andy Stanton
10/07/2014



I'm not sure what you mean Jeff.  It looks fine to me!
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JeffT
10/07/2014



Andy: When I look at the song it shows 4 chord diagrams the first is labelled as tacet (the song only has 3 chords C F G). I put Tacet in square brackets and it has seen it as C+.
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Andy Stanton
11/07/2014



Try it again!
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JeffT
11/07/2014



Ah, did Tacet have to be TACET?
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Andy Stanton
11/07/2014



No, it could have been 'tacet'.  It didn't occur to me that folk would use a mixture of upper and lower case.  Still it's sorted now!
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Rita cutts
12/07/2014



Hi folks,

I just wanted to say it's so gratifying to know the Happy Band  can make a difference
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JeffT
12/07/2014



First, I hope you will excuse me using our comments page for an advert.

The late “Newark Ukulele Band” has evolved into a small group of players who play just for fun. Several members of the ‘Happy Band’ are regular attendees.

The group has no formal membership, no subscriptions, no commitments, no rules,  (Except no children, as we meet in the White Hart) and is not restricted to U3A members.
We meet once a month on the third Thursday at 19:30.
If you wish to come along please do so, you are not committing yourself to anything.

My only role is to book the room and to send email reminders to those who would like to join us on a regular basis, for this I will need you to send your email address to: Newukes@gmail.com

Jeff Taylor

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David Hall
14/07/2014



I hope you are all rested and I hope you enjoyed last Friday evening as much as I did. We gave the Reach audience just what they wanted namely a "Happy Hour" with our Ukulele Happy Band. It was very successful(warts an all) and will no doubt be repeated at some future date. Thank you to each and everyone of you. Don't forget we meet this Wednesday usual time and place. I have no set list so perhaps we should just relax and take turns suggesting a song to play.
David.H.  
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Andy Stanton
15/07/2014



There’s been two songs added to the play list over the last week or so,  ROCK AROUND THE CLOCK and HOUND DOG, which have the same musical device, the classic Twelve Bar Blues.
It’s handy to get your head around twelve bar blues because it features in a lot of popular music, the blues (obviously), jazz, rock and roll, soul and among others not so readily associated, like Sca and Reggae.

The structure of twelve bar blues is basically this.

Bars 1 & 2: Root Chord
Bars 3 & 4: Root Chord
Bars 5 & 6: Subdominant Chord
Bars 7 & 8: Root Chord
Bar 9 :Dominant Chord
Bar 10:Subdominant Chord
Bars 11 & 12:Root Chord

You will tend to find that in a 12 bar song with verses and choruses that the 12 bar structure is applied to both.

If a verse goes on into a following verse or a twelve bar chorus it is usual (although not always) for Bar 12 to have the dominant chord.  This is called the turn around.  The idea is to set the tune up for the next stage.

The group Manfred Man supported Little Richard on a concert tour in the mid sixties and they had an argument with him because they claimed he was too loose about the number of bars you played in a twelve bar blues.  The great man told them that he would decide how many there were and he did.  What he used to do is repeat the middle group bars 5 to 8 a number of times so as to exaggerate the build up to Bar 10.

Ok. We’ll use as an example ROCK AROUND THE CLOCK.  C Major is the Root Key, G is the Dominant Chord and F is the Subdominant Chord.  So the Chord sequence goes like this.

Verse
(C) 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 |(C7) 1 2 3 4 |
(F) 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 |(C) 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 |
(G7) 1 2 3 4 |(F) 1 2 3 4 |(C) 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 |


The sharper among you will have noticed some 7th Chords have substituted for some of the major chords.  This is ok and it happens quite often.  It is quite common to move into a 7th chord as a transition to the subdominant chord, as it is also quite common for the dominant chord to be played as a seventh.  There is a large degree of artistic licence over this, and Little Richard does not have exclusive authority to mess with the blues.

While on ROCK AROUND THE CLOCK there is a strumming pattern for the musical interlude which is straight forward.  Listen to video clip and you will hear them play a snatch of three notes for each bar and a one beat break before the next bar, so it has a sort of staccato effect.e.g:-

(C) V V V - | V V V - | V V V - |(C7) V V V - |
(F) V V V - | V V V - |(C) V V V - | V V V - |
(G7) V V V - |(F) V V V - |(C) V V V - | (G7)V V V - |  (V is a down strum, - is a rest)

Practice it and see if we can do it for tomorrow.
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Andy Stanton
15/07/2014



For the avoidance of doubt the musical interlude I allude (illiteration, good eh?) to on the video clip is the second one just before the end.
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JeffT
15/07/2014



Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain - Royal Centre - Friday Nov 7th - plus an invitation to take ukuleles with you. £22
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Rita cutts
15/07/2014



Sounds good Jeff, we'll have to hire a coach and all go.
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Andy Stanton
16/07/2014



So, it's the banjo ukulele you have in mind!
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Andy Stanton
16/07/2014



Hi Everyone,

I'd like to draw your attention to the instructions at the foot of this email about replying to emails posted from U3Anewarkukulele.co.uk

I'm now going to stop reposting emails sent to me in error!

Andy
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David Hall
16/07/2014



Hello there, further to the enthusiastic response about the forthcoming UOGB concert in November I do know that the Tram service runs up to midnight Mon-Sat. The Wilkinson St. Park and Ride would be the best bet for most of us as it is just off the ring road. The post code is NG7 7NU. The Tram stops right outside the Royal Centre. Hope this helps.
David.H.
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JeffT
17/07/2014



Andy, I can't find the Happy song?
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Andy Stanton
17/07/2014



Look for "Happy Band Song".  It is there! Promise!
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JeffT
17/07/2014



Thanks, got it now
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Andy Stanton
18/07/2014



Right Everyone,
I've put the two medleys we looked at on Wednesday, and I've taken all the songs contained therein and added them as individual songs to the playlist.
So we now have the following additions to the play list:-

Baby Face
By THe Light Of The Silvery Moon
Bye Bye Blackbird
Has Anybody Seen My Gal
I've Got A Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts
Knees Up Mother Brown
I'm Looking Over A Four Leaf Clover
Me And My Shadow
My Old Man Said Follow The Van
Sailing Along On Moonlight Bay
Shine On Harvest Moon
Slow Boat To China
Tiptoe Through The Tulips
What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes (at me for)
When You're Smiling
Yes Sir That's My Baby

I know I have been fairly forthright about Medleys.  I'm not against them per se, I'm just not sure that introducing new material as part of a medley is such a good idea.  By its own terms of reference it is a mixture, and it's proving to be the case that we have a mixture of complexity.

For example:

Slow Boat To China is a complicated song with a good range of chords, and presents some difficulty, but it slips in with a much easier song What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For.  I'm not suggesting that we don't play it, simply that we give it the attention it deserves and learn to play it with confidence before we introduce it to a medley.

Medleys are arrangements.  It is a good idea to practice the songs and play them with confidence before you start arranging them.

I haven't sorted out the video clips for these additions yet.  I'll be doing that over the weekend.


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Robin Hardy
18/07/2014



Hi Guys,  URGENT - 20% DISCOUNT on Ukulele Orchestra of GB tickets - 7th November 2014 Royal Concert Hall Nottingham for bookings of 8 or more.

I missed last week's meeting when the possibility of going to this concert was raised.  I gather it was decided to make individual bookings rather than go as a group.

Jeff put out an open invitation to go to last night's "Newuke" session, which is not restricted to U3A, and some of the U3A Happy Band decided to go to the Nottingham concert as a group anyway (Jeff had shot-off early so is not aware - but this was definitely not by design, Jeff, you are of course most welcome).

I have now booked for 11 people (which includes partners), and discovered there is a 20% discount for groups.  If anybody else wants to take advantage of this I can add to the booking, just once more, and still get the discount and with no further booking costs.  

The cost after deducting discount is £17.60 (reduced from £22.00 - I will refund those who have already paid) for first tier (="Dress Circle").

Of course, any of us can travel independently if we wish, or we have plenty of time to make group travel arrangements if required.  If we all go by car, I am sure those without transport can get lifts.

If you would like to be added to this group booking, please post a comment on this site by 4:30 Monday (21st July), AND phone me (see U3A Contact List, Motorhome group for my number) to arrange payment.  

PLEASE NOTE: I cannot guarantee that seats will still be available on Monday, nor that they will be adjacent to those already booked.

Happy Ukeing!
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DavidN
18/07/2014



Robin, can you put down meself + uke, oh and I suppose I>d better include the wife. I>ll have to pay for two and try and sneak the uke in. Just a though - I know we are all going to make us own way there but I am will to take two other members, just as long as they are quiet and don>t keep asking, "are we there yet"....
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Irene
19/07/2014



Hello Robin, Thanks for doing the email can you please add me on your list. Will ring to arrange payment. Irene Danton
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robin hardy
19/07/2014



OK, So why didn't I put my home number on here? There couldn't possibly be any more people getting hold of it to try selling me solar panels, loan protection compensation or meerkat cuddly toys!

If you want to contact me regarding the concert in Nottingham the number is: 01636 830076.
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robin hardy
19/07/2014



OK, So why didn't I put my home number on here? There couldn't possibly be any more people getting hold of it to try selling me solar panels, loan protection compensation or meerkat cuddly toys!

If you want to contact me regarding the concert in Nottingham the number is: 01636 705481.
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Andy Stanton
19/07/2014



Hi Robin,

Please be advised that although the permission to add to this page is limited to members who sign on, the page itself is public domain.  Are you still happy to have your phone number displayed?

Andy

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Tony Dawes
19/07/2014



Hi Robin Did you book me 2? if so many thanks and when can I pay you?
Tony
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Andy Stanton
20/07/2014



For the francophiles among you I have substituted the English version of 'La Mer' with the original French, and I've added the English version to the play list under the English title 'Beyond The Sea'.
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JeffT
20/07/2014



Stand by Me: Hear this song at and play along in this key.  

Click Stand By Me for the song sheet
Click to ENLARGE video clip

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Andy Stanton
20/07/2014



I've put the word and chords up for Stand By Me in the key they are playing.  It's Db!
It's a bit tricky, but there are only four chords to the song.  With a bit of practice you should be able to busk along!
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Andy Stanton
20/07/2014



Ok, humble pie time. The song is in fact in C making everything easier for everybody.
Special sorry to Jeff who probably got this right first time around.
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JeffT
20/07/2014



The chords that I put, originally for 'Stand by Me'('Playing for Change' version) were from Richard G (Scorpex) and I assumed that when he said that it matched the video he was correct. I had looked and worked out electronically that it was being played in Am. Too much to learn and so little time.
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JeffT
20/07/2014



Hi Andy, I must have been reviewing the chords at the same time as you :)
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Robin Hardy
21/07/2014



Hi All, Sorry for not posting reply - up to my eyes in clearing house prior to moving.
So far tickets for Nottingham concert are booked for:
 Tony x2
 Rita x2       paid - discount to refund
 Colleen x1 paid - discount to refund
 Jaqui x2     paid - discount to refund
 Andy x2
 Robin x2     paid

I have bookings to place today for:
 Irene x1
 Dave x2

If anyone else would like discount tickets (£17.60 each) please post here before 4:30 today.

To pay, I am hoping to be at the beginners group on wednesday, or u can phone for my address.
Cheers, R.


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Robin Hardy
21/07/2014



By the way,  The "Dave" is DavidN (per comment above)
. . . and no, we're not there yet, it's just round the next corner!
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robin hardy
21/07/2014



Colleen - got our phone message, but can't find your number (apols to rest for posting message here).

I know you've paid for three, but as you said two were for Jaqui (hope the names are spelt correctly!) I put her down as 2 after yourself.  Sorry, should have made it clear.
R
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robin hardy
21/07/2014



Colleen - got our phone message, but can't find your number (apols to rest for posting message here).

I know you've paid for three, but as you said two were for Jaqui (hope the names are spelt correctly!) I put her down as 2 after yourself.  Sorry, should have made it clear.
R
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JeffT
25/07/2014



OK Andy, I sort of get that C+ is also written as Caug, but for what reason in 'Darktown'
is it called Ebdim7 ? I really must do some work on why chords are called what they are!
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Andy Stanton
25/07/2014



It is an E flat 7th chord which has been diminished.

A diminished seventh chord consists of three superposed minor thirds, and thus has all successive notes a minor third apart; it contains two diminished fifths. In jazz theory, a diminished seventh chord has four available tensions, each a major ninth above the chord tones, and thus forming a diminished seventh chord a whole tone (or major ninth) above the root chord. Because any chord tone of the diminished seventh can be heard as the root, the tensions are not numbered as ninth, eleventh and so on. The usual notation is Cdim7 or C°7, but some lead sheets or popular music books may omit the 7.

Alternatively "Ask a stupid question..."
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Andy Stanton
25/07/2014



I forget who it was who gave me a copy of Cotton Fields in the key of D asking me to add it to the play list.

It is already on it!

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David Hall
27/07/2014



Hello Happy Band, first a date for your diaries. We have been asked to to play a session on     Friday September the 26th @ 1.15pm for the Newark Chauntry Group. The venue will be the Palace Theatre(no not the big stage)but the bar area I think! More details nearer the time.  Okay for our meeting this week we will start the session with a couple of easy songs as suggested by one of our group last time we met. I suggest Colours and Singing in the Rain.  We can then move on to a list to start rehearsals for the above performance.
David. H.
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Tony Dawes
28/07/2014



Hi David, if we are going to continue playing very simple songs like Singing in the Rain can we at least try some sort of arrangement please.
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Andy Stanton
28/07/2014



I've added a feature to the play list which might help with the selection of material.  Look for 'Plain List' at the top of the play list and in brackets by the side are the words 'by difficulty'.  Click on this and the playlist is ordered by difficulty.
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David Hall
28/07/2014



Hi Tony, just to recap, it was a request by one of our group(who admitted having some difficulty keeping up with us sometimes)to play a couple of easy songs before moving on to our set lists.I did feel that this was a reasonable request and included the two as above. As always I strive to include everyone in having a say in compiling our playlists and would welcome any suggestions re: arrangements you may have.
David.H.
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David Hall
28/07/2014



Almost forgot, thank you Andy for the "Plain List" It will prove to a very valuable tool in compiling future playlists.
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Andy Stanton
29/07/2014



Yes it is an idea to start of with a few easy songs, but at some point we need to stretch ourselves.  I suppose my concern is that when we get to tackle something fairly challenging it tends to come out of the blue, either as the middle part of a medley or on a whim thta "here's a brilliant song we could play", and often we have no opportunity to look at it before we find ourselves playing it.

This is a shame because what happens is that we fall over playing it, when with a bit of notice we shouldn't.  If we had a little notice of which of the more complicated songs we would want to play then it offers an opportunity for private practice prior to coming together to play it.

... or is that far too radical.

I'd like to suggest:-
Blue Skies  - we had a bit of trouble with this during the performance at the U3A meeting.  It would be good to iron out the problems.
I'm Leaning On A Lamppost - There 's a little bit of modulation on the bridge in this one.  It might be an idea to look at the video clip and see what George Formby does.  There's also a little scope for an arrangement here.  After we're confident with it then why not do an arrangement similar to the Formby one in which the song is repeated again but at a faster speed?
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JeffT
29/07/2014



"Faster speed" just jumped out at me !! Yes despite that I would agree with those sentiments. The use of the projector for Youtube clips? We may need to secure a BB or WiFi link to work on the hoof but pre-selection would allow for saved clips.
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