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David Hall
06/10/2014



The usual reminder that we meet this Wednesday,usual time and place. I think we should exclude "Bye Bye Blackbird" and "Shine on Harvest Moon" from our playlist for the next gig at Claypole. We have plenty of of other material to choose from. So suggestions welcome! We will also be practising our starts and finishes as planned.
David.H.

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Andy Stanton
07/10/2014



Again, I have to offer apologies.  I'm visiting my dear old Mum in Scarborough.  I should be back well in time for the next Beginners' Group. See you all next time.
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Irene
15/10/2014



Hoped by be there today, but now taking daughter to hospital appointment
Do hope I will be able to catch up.


Irene
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JeffT
17/10/2014



Just posted song "All I Want Is You", played this last week in Nottingham and it occurred to me that it fitted the idea of "just knowing" when to change chords, that Andy has been talking about. A very simple chord sequence (not even that really) We would need scripts for the words but at least we could play the chords without reference to them.
  The youtube link is


Hope you like it.Click to ENLARGE video clip

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David Hall
19/10/2014



Hello again, we meet this coming Wednesday as usual and will be putting together the song list for the "Guide Dog" gig on November the 8th.I gather there will be one or two Doggie songs submitted for our session, can't wait! Should also find time to practice "All I want is You". Thanks for that Jeff it is a good exercise. One other piece of info for our consideration. We have been asked if we would play at the Newark Patchwork Group's Christmas party on Tuesday the 25th of November(more details on Wednesday).
David. H.
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Tony Dawes
21/10/2014



Hi Andy, I seem to have lost the facility to blank out the chord images when printing.
Has this been removed?
Talk soon
Tony
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JeffT
21/10/2014



Tony, still works on mine?
Jeff
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Tony Dawes
21/10/2014



Hi Andy, Found it! it was hiding away on the margins of the page, very naughty!
Tony
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robin hardy
21/10/2014



Hi Andy,
Thanks for adding my "How Much is that Puppy . . ." guide-dog version of "Doggie in the Window" to the play-list.
I think I have uploaded a "Guide Dog" - a version of "Hound Dog" also for consideration for the upcoming gig.
As it has not appeared yet, Could it be that:-
a) I have done something wrong.
b) It has been thrown out with the presumably many "Smutty" submissions to the site which you work tirelessly to intercept.
c) It has yet to go before the judge, in which case I hope the judge is not of the hanging variety!
I look forward to hearing your verdict.
Thanks, Robin.
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robin hardy
21/10/2014



Hi All,

In case your wondering what these guide-dog versions of songs are about, at last week's Beginners Workshop, there was a conversation about "appropriate" songs for the next gig.

I thought that instead of learning whole new songs with the word "dog" in them, we might be better writing some very appropriate words to a couple of songs we already know.

Having that sad sort of mind, I had already been putting "Guide Dog" words to the oft-played "Hound Dog" song, and so offered to let everyone else in on them (so - sorry in advance for that!)

Jacq had already mentioned possibly playing "How much is that Doggie . . .", and Andy fiddled around with a few chords and decided it was dead easy and in the key of "C".

Given that we all know that tune, I said I would dig out the original words, and see what alternatives I could come up with.  And that's how the "How Much is that Puppy in the Kennel" came about.

I know we are a democratic outfit, and thought it was worth adding these two new versions of well-known songs to the Play List so they could be kicked about (or "out") as an option for the gig songs at tomorrows gathering.

Hope you like them.

If not, I know you'll soon tell me if I am barking up the wrong tree! (Ouch - I know, couldn't resist it)

Cheers, Robin
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Andy Stanton
21/10/2014



Hi Robin,

I had noticed that there had been an addition to the very top of the play list which had no title.  I've managed to fettle with the song index file to correct this.  I haven't found a file for Guide Dog in the songs directory so I am going to assume what you may have done and ask if it rings any bells.

I suggest what you make have done is you tried to add a song with all the critical detail in the main dialogue box leaving the 'Title' box and the 'By' box empty.

What happens is the text file created to process the song takes its name from whatever you have put in the 'Title' box.  If you haven't put anything in it then it will try to create a file named '.txt', It can't actual do this so it simple returns an error message.

It is essential that you give each song a unique name (no duplicated names.  If the name has been used before eg. 'example', then use 'example 1', 'example 2' etc.  It is also essential that you include the author(s) name.

I suggest that this is what you make have done.  A title and author in the main body of the text will not be recognised.
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robin hardy
21/10/2014



Thanks Andy,

I did put a title in, but having re-read the instructions, I see that ampersands are not allowed.

The Original "Hound Dog" song on the play-list has an ampersand in the Authors box (field), and I copied this in.

If you have introduced a filter after the original song was posted, perhaps it is the copied ampersasnd that's causing the upload to be rejected.

I will try again without the ampersand.
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robin hardy
21/10/2014



Yep,

That did it!  See you tomorrow.

Robin
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David Hall
22/10/2014



Hello all, great to see everyone enjoying the session today( such an enthusiastic bunch are we not?). A big thanks to Robin this week for his "doggie" songs, they should go down a treat. Sorry we didn't get to practice "All I want is You" we must give it a go next time out, it is good practice. Finally thanks for making my day, I can't think of a better way of spending a wet Wednesday afternoon.
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JeffT
22/10/2014



I have just posted "All that Jazz" on the request of Jac& Rita. I don't pretend to be able to play it, it is not for the faint hearted and I think it needs some tweaking, Tony can you look at it? Andy some of the chords & shapes are a little obscure and I am assuming that if the database sees something strange it uses Caug? I still have to a bit of work taking out the Bass chords.
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Andy Stanton
22/10/2014



Well, Jeff, thanks for that little poser, and All That Jazz.

The chord E13 has five notes in it, so by definition cannot be played on a ukulele. I've substituted it with E6. Could I ask people to bear in mind that if they put two chords together separated by a forward slash then they each need to be in separate square brackets. It's different with something like "A6/9" as this is the description of a single chord, and not the morphing two separate chords together.

Having said all that this is a fiendishly piece to play, and I wish anybody who tries it the best of luck,  but Jeff, I would suggest that some brief notes added to the end of the song sheet might be helpful in explaining the idiosyncratic notation that has been used. I'm assuming all the different symbols suggestion different pauses and whatever, but I don't know that.  It would be helpful to have that explained.
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JeffT
22/10/2014



I think that that one of the acknowledged ways of playing E13 on 4 stings is 1224 although there are others.
As I put in my post the only reason for posting it was a request (I have now deleted content). I'm sure that I can find other ways of communicating with individuals. I am well aware that the notation is not what U3A is used to however the piece was not arranged by me but, as I acknowledged by Neil Marriott, a ukulele player of some experience. I did noted also that it is not for the faint hearted and the conversion to our system was incomplete.
I should consider more carefully before posting songs.
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Andy Stanton
23/10/2014



Hi Jeff,

The biggest problem with posts is that you can so easily misinterpret what has been posted before.  It seems you have read my last post as being particularly picky and irritated, when in fact nothing was further than the truth!  I have gone to considerable lengths to enable people to post songs to this list.  Some of the songs I have posted on this list are complicated so complication itself is no bar.

It shouldn't be a matter for me whether things are included or excluded from the site.  I actually welcomed the inclusion of All That Jazz which I hoped would have been implied by my going to the trouble of identifying notes and a video clip for it.  The request for clarification on the notation was a genuine one (I wanted to know myself).

I'm sorry if my last posting caused you any upset.  I promise I was not being precious about this website, I want it to be owned by the rest of the group, and I am grateful for the efforts you have made to lead by example.  I certainly did not intend to slight you in anyway, and I would be grateful if you could reinstate the song.

All the best

Andy
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JeffT
23/10/2014



OK Andy comments taken on board, I will repost song when I have ironed out the wrinkles getting it from "Chordpro" format into a chord in line system that we use.
explanation of the notation that Neil uses in under way.
Jeff
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JeffT
23/10/2014



Notes for All that Jazz and others:
As I understand the syntax for the notationis:

/   /   /   /   |    would mean an bar of 4/4 (Four beats in a bar) played to the strum indicated at the top of the song (If any)

| /.. /.. /.. /.. |    would mean same as above only you would be singing a note/word as you played. This might mean that the word is stretched to fit.

| ^  ^  ^  ^  |    would mean Down Stokes only (4 in a bar)

| ^.. ^.. ^..^.. |  would mean Down stokes only singing a note/word. Again possibly stretching the vocal sound.

| ^                   means play a single down stoke and stop strumming until the next Chord indication or ^ or /

| upstroke only

| ; silent / rest strokes

| <<<<<< tremolo

(Andy I still can't publish the tremolo wiggles although they do appear in preview?)
I have E7+ 1203, G# 1343, F# 6667, A6 9999, E13 1224, A69 6677 I know even less about jazz style chords and their make-up than I do about standard Maj chords and that's not a lot.
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JeffT
23/10/2014~JeffT
23/10/2014



I think this bit got missed off?
<<<<< tremolo

(Andy I still can't publish the tremolo wiggles although they do appear in preview?)
I have E7+ 1203, G# 1343, F# 6667, A6 9999, E13 1224, A69 6677 I know even less about jazz style chords and their make-up than I do about standard Maj chords and that's not a lot.
Comments?
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Andy Stanton
23/10/2014



Unfortunately I use the tremolo wiggles as field separators in the coding of this page,  I never thought anybody would use them in the song sheets. I've replaced them on the comments page for the funny character that appears left of the '!' on a standard keyboard just so the page would work properly.

Sorry about that Jeff.  You weren't to know.  Send me a copy of the original script as a text file to my email address and I'll see what I can do.
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Andy Stanton
24/10/2014



Well, that was an interesting challenge.  I've managed to work out how to display the jazz chords in All That Jazz.  They're all way up there on the fret board, so to get it all in you will now see a label at the top of the chord shape telling you which fret is the top most on that chord shape. E.g. Assuming you are not playing on a baritone uke then for A6^ the chord diagram indicates a bar across at the fifth fret.  However, the label at the top tells us that the top most fret on this diagram is the fourth fret, and so this means the bar is held down on the ninth fret (5 + 4).

Simples!
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JeffT
24/10/2014



Well we can't let your coding skills atrophie  Andy.
Looking at the chords it is a good job its on the slow side.
I have just been looking at the chords for Dream a "Little Dream of Me". I think I will let that one go!
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Andy Stanton
26/10/2014



Thanks Jeff,
The latest improvement to the site is that the database of chords has been massively extended.  However, most chords are still at the first position ie. at machine head end of the ukulele.  It's not an exhaustive list.  You may find when you pop in a new song that you have included a chord the database does not recognise. Now you will be told which chords are not recognised and a button appears that allows you to enter the new chord onto the database.
You'll find that after you've created the new chord you will be shown where it is on the chord charts, but if you immediately open 'Add a song' you will get back to the song you were trying to upload.  This time when you press the preview button you will find your new chord has been recognised.

You can also edit existing chords by going to the chord charts and clicking on the chord name on any of the chord diagrams.  Please note that all the chords listed have inversions i.e. alternative ways of making the chord.  Most of the chords are first position chords so if you want to add a higher inversion of the chord then please adopt the site protocol and add a '^' character after the chord name. Sorry, but we are limited to one inversion for each chord. They are ukuleles we are playing after all.

A
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Andy Stanton
28/10/2014



Just a reminder that there will not be a beginners' group this week.  That will free up the White Hart for an additional practice for the main group if people think that's a good idea.  The next beginners' group will be on 5th November, White Hart at 2pm.
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robin hardy
28/10/2014



Hi All,
Further to Andy's post above - is anybody planning to go to the White Hart tomorrow equiped with Ukulele and music?
(or without for that matter!)
I still have the beginners workshop in my diary, so would like to join any one else stuck for playmates down there.
Please post here if interested.
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Andy Stanton
28/10/2014



Hi,

I've had two replies to robins posting.  Please do note that replies to emails sent by the website do not go back to the website they come to me personally, which means then I have to post them on your behalf.  If you want to reply to a posting on the website, please, please,please go to the website and use the dialogue box there.


Here we go :-
1. From Rita Cutts

Hi robin

Yes I thought David had said there was an extra rehearsal this week.   I will be going.

Cheers

RIta

2. From Alan Williams

Hi Robin I need to practice the dog songs so shall join the pack for a howel
about 2pmish

Alan



 
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David Hall
28/10/2014



Sorry just back from short break. I seem to remember that we agreed to meet this week for an extra. Rehearsal.  So let,s  do that shall we?  You will need to bring your music  at least the songs we have been practicing for the next Gig. (Don,t forget the doggie songs) See you all at 2pm sharp.    
David.
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robin hardy
28/10/2014



Apologies to all re rehearsal tomorrow.

It sounds like I won't be on my own then -

- must have been cat-napping when that was decided last week!

See you tomorrow.
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Gordon Eden
29/10/2014



Great - I'll be there.

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Tony Dawes
29/10/2014



Can we please have a set list for practice and the next gig. It saves carrying 2cwt of paper. Perhaps we all ought to get Tablets, but I am waiting for mine on the NHS.
See you later
Tony

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JeffT
29/10/2014



Looks increasingly like I am not going to make it! Waiting for concrete! I also will need a set list and any "detail" changes to songs
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Andy Stanton
29/10/2014



Jeff, is the concrete anything to do with the 'set' list?

Get it!

'Set' list!  Boom! Boom!
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robin hardy
29/10/2014



Hi All,

As Andy was unable to attend today's practice, I have tried to save him some work.

I have amended the "Bird Dog" lyrics to repeat the "Hey, Bird Dog, . . . " verse at the end, with a note to repeat the last line of that verse and fade to close, as we practiced.

I also tried to amend the lyrics on "Things" to include repeats of the words (playin'...) and (we once knew,), but the program tried to turn the already existing "STOP" instructions into a chord, so I will need Andy's help on this . . . are you there Andy?
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JeffT
30/10/2014



I have the Guide Dog gig down as Nov 8th and that it might be in Claypole, but I have no note of the time and place?
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jacq
30/10/2014



Tony--you are a star!
Your humour brings a big smiley face on the greyist of days--- Can I get your tablets on prescription?
Jacq
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jacq
30/10/2014



While I'm logged on, I would like to say that Wednesday's session was GREAT---
And I know that, at least, those sitting near by were also of the same opinion
There were several reasons for this:
The square format of the room led to an inclusivity that we have not been able to experience with other room layouts
We were all playing and "singing" to each other around the room -- personally I dislike singing to a screen (especially as I can't see what's on it anyway and trying to read printed material in the dark is equally impossible)
Being able to see all the members of the group led to a great camaraderie and, on the whole, kept the group together (apart from Gordon and his solos--great work Gordon and to Chris who really wasn't sure about all the repetition--but it was his Birthday!)    
Anyway, thanks everyone---it was a really HAPPY, happyband! x
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David Hall
30/10/2014



We'll now,  glad you all enjoyed yourselves, I certainly did. I think I can now  post our agreed song list  as far as I am able. We did agree to finalise the list next week if you remember!  Therefore songs to practice are:
1. Happy Band Song.
2. Singing the Blues.
3. Travelling Light.
4.  Listen to  the Rhythm  of the falling Rain.
5.  Putting on the Agony.
6.  Button up your Overcoat.
7   How much is that Puppy in the window.
                 Mid session  
8.  Five foot two Medley.
9.  Oh Boy.
10  Bird Dog.
11. Bye Bye Love.
12. Things.
13. Guide Dog.

  We may need to have one or two songs on standby  as it were, but the above are what we agreed last Wednesday.  See you next week.
David.H.
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Andy Stanton
31/10/2014



Robin,

The STOP issue has been sorted!

Andy
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robin hardy
31/10/2014



Hi All,

Play List update:
The missing repeats to the ends of those 2 lines in the song "Things" have now been added.

Thanks for sorting the "STOP" issue Andy.

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robin hardy
31/10/2014



Hi Andy,

Sorry to trouble you again.

As I feel very uncomfortable with my name being in the "By" box on the Play List alongside the original composers of the songs, I tried to remove it on the "Guide Dog" song, and put the following message in italics a couple of lines after the song:-

&Ixxx The above lyrics were adapted by Robin Hardy of Newark (UK) U3A
(from the original song "Hound Dog") purely as an educational exercise with
the aim of producing song lyrics which might appeal to a specific audience xxx&i

Where I have put the x's above I had put dashes - is that a combination it doesn't accept?

Also I wanted to do the same with "How much is that puppy . . .".

Any help/advice gratefully received.
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robin hardy
31/10/2014



Hi David,

Thanks for the play list for the guide dog gig.

Just a note - if the intention is to play my attempt at guide dog lyrics, song number 7 would be ". . . Puppy in the Kennel" not "Window".

. . . all names and places changed to protect the innocent!
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Admin
31/10/2014



Robin,

Both songs duly changed.

Andy
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